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Jul 17, 6:59 AM
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Alice and Isuka reunited at last.

After teaming up with Alice, Isuka and his allies thwart the Empire and Sovereignty's conspiracy, successfully safeguarding Sisbell. Following this intense ordeal, they journey to Alsamira for a well-deserved vacation. However, Sisbell, yet to return to the palace, requests Unit N07, currently on vacation, to escort her back, making them an offer they cannot refuse. Meanwhile, Alice begins to suspect that Sisbell's new bodyguard might actually be Isuka.

This looks so... cheap my god. But whatever, not like the first season was anything new when it came to art. Love ho wmuch Rin was exaggerating the whole bodyguarding with Isuka and Sisbell. Best girl don't pull punches. Then on thing leads to another, and all that stuff best girl Sisbell was doing, Alice wanted to do with Isuka... which lead to her boob getting stuck in Isuka's arm... xD. Really love how that took up 1/4 of the runtime lol.

They're setting something up with all the Saint Disciples in one place, let me guess, Isuka's still the strongest out of all of them...


Jul 17, 7:03 AM
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Reunion 😭 with Alice at last. What do you think animation quality is reduced or not?
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there are the art quality drops we saw in the first trailer
Jul 17, 7:38 AM
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I thnk it's funny that Alice and Iska reunion seems more or less like fate. On the other hand, it seems she's more conscious about Iska this season.

Rin is still how I remember from the previous season. Sisbell seems more relevant this season but I find their chemistry kinda forced. I'd rather see Iska paired with Alice but it's going to take time. Not going to lie, some of this episode seemed more like a rom-com than fantasy anime.

Alice's reactions were priceless...seems like she can't shake the idea of Iska going out with Sisbell.
Jul 17, 7:49 AM
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ayo whats up with the animation? Did the whole team take the day off. Bruh i laughed so hard at her boob sticking through his arm LOL
Jul 17, 8:01 AM
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If the downgrade in quality was already noticeable from the first episode, today's episode will make you tear your eyes out.

Jul 17, 9:24 AM
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Yea I miss silver link on the production so much 😭 the art and animation today didn’t look good at all, like wtf was that lewd handholding scene with Alice and Iska?? Alice boobs looked so weird

It was cute seeing Alice and Iska reunited finally and jealous Alice stalking Iska and Sisbel around had me dying. Alice better hurry up and let Iska know how she feels before Sisbel swoops in and takes the throne and her man lmao.

The assassination attempt on the queen seems too perfect. Dude dressed in white seems way more sus than the masked man, and with the ending scene with Rysia we know there’s someone on the inside.. could that be subject E? Risya and the disciples moving to capture the queen and purebreds.. things are about to get interesting.
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Damn, the animation quality drop is quite noticeable. This things happen when you have sequel made four years later.

Jul 17, 10:10 AM
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Such a long order though. Even in disguise Alice still cuts an impressive figure. Glasses though really served to enhance Sisbell's look. It was amusing seeing Alice overreact. Her reanactment in the room though was fun. Between the factions within the Nebulis making their moves and the empire making theirs looks like hell is coming to the Nebulis. Out of all the saints im most curious to see how Risya fares. Pretty nice ending theme.
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Reunion 😭 with Alice at last. What do you think animation quality is reduced or not?
@Ricky16 yea it is very visible and even hard to watch, comparing with S1
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Most members of the Sovereignty's royal family are sus. Why are they all so sus? Purebred subject E is presumably Elletear because her name begins with E. Why would she be in contact with the Empire? She agreed with Lord Talisman's, who is the head of Hydra which I thought they said supported the Lou in the last episode, proposal and he seemed sus as well. Masked Lord was an antagonist in the first season but he is obviously being framed right? What is Hydra's goal in this if they support Lou? Risya is a Saint Disciple? Was that revealed in the first season?
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Sadly, I found this episode to be rather boring. It was hard to keep up with because I kept spacing out. Also, like everyone else, the animation was...appalling to say the least. I hope the story picks up again with what happened in the latter half of the episode because right now it's dead in the water.
Jul 17, 11:55 AM
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ngl for 4 whole years i waited for season 2 and the trailer made the art look so good. the quality js dropped signigicantly.the story is still good but my main issue is its art. BRING BACK THE OLD ART STYLE🙏🙏🙏
Jul 17, 12:07 PM

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how did they make the art style this ep seem cheaper than silver link's work lmao?? it looks as if the anime regressed 10 years

on the other hand, they really poured out their heart and soul in the ED visuals... where was all that animation in the rest of the ep?
Jul 17, 12:20 PM

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After spending all this time in denial, Alice pretty much gave up all pretense this time... :D
Jul 17, 12:35 PM

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Alice getting jealous was hilarious. The maid also had fun with her.

Things aren't looking good for the queen and Sisbell. From the looks of it Elletear might be working with the hydra guy and Mask guy might not be bad? Someone's working with the emperor. Subject E as in Elletear? Things are about to get even worse with the saint disciples on the move. Alice and Iska better do something fast.

Animation went down a lot this episode. First episode looked decent and if they could keep the production like that for the rest of the season it would have been nice. I sure hope the production for rest of the episodes won't be like this one, after delaying the season multiple times too.
Jul 17, 1:22 PM

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Highlight of this ep: Alice acquires new boobamorphing powers

The VAs made this kinda fun, and of course Miyuki Sawashiro.

ED is animation goals XD
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Jul 17, 1:24 PM
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Despite the low score in ss1 I really liked the premise and enjoyed this show and looked forward to ss2, but this is just...terrible, appalling animation. Like what's the point of the deformed b00b scene, regardless im still gonna watch this just because of iska and alice
Jul 17, 2:28 PM
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Ricky16 said:
Reunion 😭 with Alice at last. What do you think animation quality is reduced or not?

I think it's not 😀😀
Jul 17, 2:31 PM

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RIP art and animation
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Yea I miss silver link on the production so much 😭 the art and animation today didn’t look good at all, like wtf was that lewd handholding scene with Alice and Iska?? Alice boobs looked so weird

It was cute seeing Alice and Iska reunited finally and jealous Alice stalking Iska and Sisbel around had me dying. Alice better hurry up and let Iska know how she feels before Sisbel swoops in and takes the throne and her man lmao.

The assassination attempt on the queen seems too perfect. Dude dressed in white seems way more sus than the masked man, and with the ending scene with Rysia we know there’s someone on the inside.. could that be subject E? Risya and the disciples moving to capture the queen and purebreds.. things are about to get interesting.
@Marinate1016 Do you know the reason? Do you think its fault about studio Palette? This studio will adapt the season 2 of the worlds finest assassins and I worried :( Do you know some news or something?
Jul 17, 3:08 PM
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@Marinate1016 Do you know the reason? Do you think its fault about studio Palette? This studio will adapt the season 2 of the worlds finest assassins and I worried :( Do you know some news or something?
@RivailleAcker That is.. Concerning. Hopefully this is a fluke. Overall, I enjoyed the story today, better than last Week. Well, 2 years since I watched it, didn't help. LOL
Jul 17, 3:11 PM

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WTF with animation? it is like Seven who animated it
Jul 17, 3:49 PM
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Is it my thing or has the quality dropped exaggeratedly in this second chapter?????
Jul 17, 4:26 PM
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Ricky16 said:
Reunion 😭 with Alice at last. What do you think animation quality is reduced or not?

Reduced is a understatement, i thought i was looking at some kids drawing, half of thw time characters didn’t even look like they are suppose to, it generally went bad, makes me sad because i fell in love with this anime and i enjoyed 1st season, i hope next ep will have better animation
Jul 17, 4:38 PM

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We are going back to 2012 quality I see, looks like season 2 will walk a hard path.
Jul 17, 5:53 PM
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Guess I’m not the only one who noticed the rough art and animation during some parts of the episode, a lot of it looked fine but it is hard to overlook the iffy moments, one of the biggest ones being the inconsistency when Iska had his arm sandwiched between Alice’s boob which was otherwise a hot moment. However, I still loved this episode because of all the Alice and Iska content, really enjoyed the scene in the hotel room, ice glasses Alice was cute and her getting revenge for how close Sisbell got to Iska earlier in the episode was both sweet and funny.

And we also got introduced to a lot of new characters, we met the head of the Hydra family, Talisman, along with his beautiful red haired babe Vichyssoise, as well as all of the Saint Disciples we heard so much about in the first season, lots of interesting looking designs there, I guess the empire is putting everything into the fight now. There was also the return of some familiar faces, being Salinger who was just chilling out, and the emperor who still looks so wild to me compared to every other character but at least he stands out lol.

And that ED, I’m wowed by how good it looked and the song was great too, if only the whole show could look like it but it is what it is, season 1 didn’t look amazing either. And comparing this to the first season’s ED, I’m an absolute sucker for that one so I don’t think this new one will beat it for me, but as I said I do think it’s great, fitting for the show too.
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Most members of the Sovereignty's royal family are sus. Why are they all so sus? Purebred subject E is presumably Elletear because her name begins with E. Why would she be in contact with the Empire? She agreed with Lord Talisman's, who is the head of Hydra which I thought they said supported the Lou in the last episode, proposal and he seemed sus as well. Masked Lord was an antagonist in the first season but he is obviously being framed right? What is Hydra's goal in this if they support Lou? Risya is a Saint Disciple? Was that revealed in the first season?
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Risya is a Saint Disciple? Was that revealed in the first season?


Yes it was...forgot was it verbally or just hinted by action. I remember she was shown to be reporting directly to the emperor himself somewhere in S1, and Saint Disciples are direct reports of the emperor.
Jul 17, 9:44 PM
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Ppl kept saying Silver Link isnt the one animating s2 even though they are credited?
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i really enjoyed Season 1 when it aired a few years ago. Having said that, this was one of the worst anime episodes I've watched a long time. The story is all over the place, and the animation is.. well.. very questionable. I had to force myself to not turn this off. I'll give it another 1 or 2 episodes, but this is a strong candidate for the first dropped show of the Summer season.
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bro what in the actual fuck is up with this season😭


The pacing is all over the place. At this point, a goddamn hentai looks better than this. Like the ED might actually be the only good thing to come out of this season.

Edit: Just found out Kamikatsu's director is directing this, which means this is mostly by Studio Pallete and if you've watched Kamikatsu this season is just completely fucked.
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I think I hated everything about this episode.

Absolutely atrocious animation. All fan service (which I'm normally fine with, but really, this was bad)

what a disgrace.


I hate to say it, but this series pulled a "Hataraku maou", first season was actually fire and worth watching with fantastic animation
this season is looking to be a steaming dog pile, after that dog was fed corn and a stool softener.

2/10

dear loooooord, the whole queen attack thing was also pretty roughly animated.

I don't want to drop this anime into Pupa territory... but maybe only one number above.
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Jul 18, 12:23 AM
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Ricky16 said:
Reunion 😭 with Alice at last. What do you think animation quality is reduced or not?

Reduced is a understatement, i thought i was looking at some kids drawing, half of thw time characters didn’t even look like they are suppose to, it generally went bad, makes me sad because i fell in love with this anime and i enjoyed 1st season, i hope next ep will have better animation

Yes Agreed, Season I Was so good in both quality & in plot. well let's hope for the improvement.
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Alice and Iska reunited at last, though they'd still have to perform their missions separately, and the former is definitely jealous of Iska and Sisbell's "date" as both her and Rin tail them on their rather "incognito" affair to clear up the misunderstanding between both parties. But more importantly, Alice is just rather frustrated that the dense Iska doesn't try to catch her drift when it comes to love and romance. But then again, Alice is being confrontational to Iska, wanting him to catch on, but he's just focused doing his escort mission with Sisbell, so Alice has to get all physical for Iska to finally get her point. And then there's Rin to spoil their moment...

Back to the larger view at hand, the Three Houses Conference with Lou, Zoa and Hydra (lead by Tailsman) with Queen Nebulis being targeted as an assassination figure, now the Saint Disciples have been called forth to join the war and capture Nebulis...alongside Vichyoiise, Tailsman's trusty advisor.

Welp, looks like most of the sequel here will be handled by Studio Palette and Silver Link on and off trading episodes.
But this episode looked rather awful.
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Probably the most cringeworthy thing I have seen in a long time. :D But then again: I have tried to avoid a lot of generic isekai and/or fantasy novel adaptions. Taking a break this season and only watching this one because the previous season seemed not that bad. (Scored it 7/10 here I am starting with 6/10 I guess.) The political stuff could get interesting. And maybe some nice fights.

But the overacting with the maid + Alice (when "interrogating" and not just admitting that she wanted to be close to Iska) was a bit much lol.
For some reason I alway remember Alderamin and the char with the similar name (Ikta).

(And I am recently thinking about continuing the Trails game series - replaying Sky where I played 1+2 ... but still wondering cause the Cold Steel afaik has a school/academy setting. I think the male main there has a similarly boring look than Iska lol.)
Jul 18, 5:28 AM
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Just wadaheck is that animation.. looks cancer... holy fk... I cant even watch this..
Jul 18, 7:08 AM
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the animation quality for this episode hurts my eyes
Jul 18, 7:30 AM

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Dear god Palette should not animate ever again..
Jul 18, 8:57 AM
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could've been better if this had proper animation like the 1st season...
Jul 18, 9:35 AM

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animation is so fucking ASS !!!

what they doing with this crappy animation so worst !!

the animator drunk maybe..

totally unacceptable..
Jul 18, 4:16 PM

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What was said in last sequence with Saint disciples, was it something not translatable or did my subtitles just stop working there?
Jul 18, 5:21 PM
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Alice is a little freaky this season,eh? She was clearly getting turned on rubbing her valley on Iska's arm.
Jul 18, 6:13 PM

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yeah nawh dawg i hate to drop this but if we're only 2 episodes in and it looks this bad... i dunno how i'm gonna put up with the rest of the subpar plot

really do miss those silver link designs and i was willing to put up with the new ones since it looked alright but this?.. i got enough to watch
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I really liked the 1st season.. not sure what happened to this but the pacing is just wack now and that's not even mentioning the animation oof. What a shame this is turning out to be.
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I was deciding whether I should continue to watch it as an unintended comedy or wait for the release on discs hoping that they'll fix it but I guess I'll go with the former. It's not like disc releases are going to fix this pacing anyway.
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ngl for 4 whole years i waited for season 2 and the trailer made the art look so good. the quality js dropped signigicantly.the story is still good but my main issue is its art. BRING BACK THE OLD ART STYLE🙏🙏🙏
@qweloas what story bruh 😭😭😭🎪
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GoddessAlya said:
@qweloas what story bruh 😭😭😭🎪

it continues off from the last episode yet js kinda derails tho😭🙏
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The first episode's quality already wasn't the best, but what the actual fuck happened with the animation and art style in this episode?! I almost stopped watching, it was so awful. How could they fuck it up so bad? I mean, the first season animation wasn't ground-breaking or anything, but it was a far cry from this abomination. It almost remids me of Try Knights, and I really want to forget that anime's existence.
Hope it gets at least slightly better in the future, and if not, I don't think the story is worth sitting through this.
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This episode was definitely made by Studio Palette. The animation is soo bad, it looks like the animations made by single-person YouTubers who are just doing it for fun/experimentation.
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Dear god Palette should not animate ever again..
I wouldn't say that. I just feel they need to pick up smaller projects, like shorts (1-5 minute episode shows) and then grow. It doesn't seem like Silver Link is touching up on their work and this was clearly made by them.
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