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@Adnash
@Deg
They got rid of the ability to quote users on "classic view" like you should in a forum. Look more closely and be sure to complain. There is no reason for them to do that. All they have to do is probably something like hide or not load certain elements depending on which mode you are using and both quote and reply can exist separately keeping in their own place where they belong.

@EnaJane
They fucked everyone over and got rid of quoting users. Reply is all you have unless you highlight text click "quote reply" and manually copy and paste the text to quote multiple users.

Why did you beta test it for 3 months if you gonna completely change it on release to break everything again?

@ateks
No Idea


@deg
It seems when you update your post the reply gets updated. Though that doesnt make up for loss of basic forum features

So i tried to quote a user for testing purposes & instead of [ quote ] message [ / quote ] like it used to,

They removed it again & replace it with @ username...

Man!!!
Why do they make things difficult & inconvenient & complicated in this site for no reason???

Also,
When you go to a specific forum post,
They instead put the message id, user id, & forum id in the link instead of just the forum id & post number...

The only improvement this site has when i entered here was just dark mode...

Oh yeah that will totally not get abused. Can't wait to reply "I agree" to a post and then the poster changing his post to some bullshit.

@Adnash
@Deg
They got rid of the ability to quote users on "classic view" like you should in a forum. Look more closely and be sure to complain. There is no reason for them to do that. All they have to do is probably something like hide or not load certain elements depending on which mode you are using and both quote and reply can exist separately keeping in their own place where they belong.

@EnaJane
They fucked everyone over and got rid of quoting users. Reply is all you have unless you highlight text click "quote reply" and manually copy and paste the text to quote multiple users.

so this was the maintenance update eh well im trying the new conversation view now so far im neutral about it

Why did you beta test it for 3 months if you gonna completely change it on release to break everything again?

@traed When I wrote my previous post, I was yet to try out the new update. However, I was rather positive, since I'm in good mood today and hearing about the preservation of Classic view getting addressed in the news was a positive information. But it seems I was overly optimistic. Like, really.

Sure, Classic view is there, but at least on mobile it looks horrible. Later I will check out my PC, but I doubt that this horrible hybrid of tree reply mode and classic forum will feel any better.

I ain't into being too dramatic or something, but I can't help but think that today this forum changed for the worse. At least when it comes to technical quality of this new update and how it has turned almost upside down something that a lot of folks, me included, liked a lot. Almost, because hey - there's still this "Classic view" button on the top right side of a thread's page, lol.

It's a sad sight, really. I doubt it will be changed. :(

Thanks for ping, @traed, and also for the post explaining how this update "works") or rather how it doesn't) in a nutshell. While all questionable changes can be easily noticed by just using the forum, it's important to have at least one post that can address main issues related to the update, and why the sight of users complaining about it shouldn't be anything surprising.

I edited my previous post to share my thoughts in it as well. It'll look better in tree mode, I guess.

@Adnash
@Deg
They got rid of the ability to quote users on "classic view" like you should in a forum. Look more closely and be sure to complain. There is no reason for them to do that. All they have to do is probably something like hide or not load certain elements depending on which mode you are using and both quote and reply can exist separately keeping in their own place where they belong.

@EnaJane
They fucked everyone over and got rid of quoting users. Reply is all you have unless you highlight text click "quote reply" and manually copy and paste the text to quote multiple users.

I didn't even think of checking what happened to mobile yet. Im on desktop view on a tablet so for me to do the "quote reply" method of quoting users is extremely frustrating.


Maybe they will get the message clearer with emoticons lol

😠

Ah damnit when you try to quote reply a user unless you copy and paste it into the floating reply box you get it as a reply to a single user so the text gets more than what you need to display

I am not sure...can you quote multiple users without manually copy-paste before this change?



And, yes, I agree with this point. I said "nice" because another forum I joined has a similar function, tho that forum keeps the initial quote function next to the reply.

Yes, when the site worked properly if you clicked "quote" button it would post the quote in a text box at the bottom or top of the page depending which you started writing in first usually the bottom and if you did it again for another post "quote" it would post that quote where you left your cursor in the box so you could quote as many users as you wanted without having to manually copy and paste so long as it was on the same page of the thread. I've seen other sites you could quote users page after page which MAL didnt attempt before which would have been an improvement but at least how it was before was still A lot better than what it is at the moment right now

Waiting for forum signatures 😳

Um, am I supposed to reply this thread?

@EnaJane Since it’s not locked, you’re free to reply

Um, am I supposed to reply this thread?

Another mid update. Forums are really the only thing MAL has on AniList at this point and they're tryna ruin that as well lol.

The new system looks confusing, I'm glad the classic view is still available.

@Frezlaj
classic view is only there in name. Look closer at how it behaves now when trying to respond to multiple users in a post you cant do it without manually copying and pasting or only user mentioning them.

@traed That's true. I've just checked it out on PC and it's almost as confusing as in the mobile format. Almost, because it more comfortable to quote other people while using your PC mouse.

"Classic view", bah. It doesn't have much to do with the classic forum view, apart from name and few small technical elements that are overwhelmed by the ones introduced in the newest update.

?

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2096391



I never got this private message, I asked other recently and they didnt either. I wonder if anyone did lol, doubt it

As one of the opponents of the beta implementation, I will say you did a good job implementing some of the key feedback. Initial impressions are that the classic view is still understandable (unlike the beta), access to BBCode has been restored, and the new post preview is great. I actually love some of these new additions!

However, there are still some major flaws. I've tried to split it into more digestable sections.

Finding new replies is impossible.

First off, the "last post" button is still gone (that double arrow that immediately sends you to the most recent post in the thread). This already makes the view basically unusable for me as any time a thread gets bumped and you want to find a new reply in the modern view, it's hopeless. Or if I get a notification about a new post, I am unable to find it in Modern. I have no idea what comment thread that reply is in or how to find it as there is no indication of where it could be. This is compounded as "Newest" shows newest parents not parents sorted by newest children. The only way to find the latest reply is to switch back to classic, you NEED a sort option for newest replies that includes child comments in the calculation.

To re-iterate from my beta feedback, I use the "last post" button DAILY and have to find new replies to threads I am participating in even more so. Not being able to do so makes Modern entirely useless for any monitoring of a thread and thus useless for me. I have to monitor every reply on my list design threads and Shishio's Club, for example, in-case it is something I can address or resolve.

Sort modes don't help.

In modern, the lack of pagination makes longer threads an absolute slog to find content. Say I want to find something in a 50 page thread and I know it was somewhere in the middle. And yes, this is a realistic use-case as I have done this dozens of times to reference older replies in Shishio's help thread. Well, neither sort option helps me and there is no way to quickly navigate to the middle of the thread. I have to load the page at reply #1 and hold page down or scroll for MINUTES while it loads. Why is there no better navigation to replace pagination?

Additionally, just because I want to see "Newest" on the thread I just viewed, doesn't mean "Newest" is the optimal view for the 10 year old suggestion thread I view next. On many of these threads if you forget you're on Newest, it is highly disorienting to read the original post and then see the latest 3 posts which are so deep into the conversation they are unrecognisable from the OP. Unfortunately, due to how painful it is to get to the end of a thread on "Oldest", as in 3 minutes of holding the END key painful, I am often forced to use "Newest" which I then get caught off-guard by on the next thread. Thread sort should be set per-thread or not remembered.

Signatures are still broken.

Signatures in the new view are still broken. They only show blank, despite saying they will display in the popup. I would have thought that would be fixed by now. And I still think that signatures should be available in the new view and simply follow the forum preference that has been available for years.

Edited: I misread the OP, signatures have yet to be implemented... still.

Is one-level deep nesting really that useful?

On a subjective note, I am still not convinced that one level deep nesting will improve much as compared with the regular flat view. My reasoning is that after one level of nesting (parent-child comment relation) it reverts back to the same "flat" view as classic. The only problem is the flat view on Modern is worse than the flat view in Classic as you don't get any quotes, which means any reply chain longer than 5 posts just becomes an unreadable mess of @ user @ user2 @ user3. If it were a fully-fledged Reddit or Anilist styled infinitely-nested system I could definitely see the reasoning. However this is a very minor improvement that, just like the thread sorting options, suffers by making any diverging or simultaneous discussions extremely difficult to read.

I will give you that it could at least really help with Q&A style threads like my list design threads so I get that this point is somewhat double-edged.

Last thoughts.

This all said, with this release version you have fixed a lot of the breaking changes you had originally made to Classic and added the requested linked-quote and BBCode view options that people asked for. With this I can keep using classic and ignore Modern almost entirely, so thanks for that. But that said we should strive for making this thing actually good enough to use so that this change is worth it and there is a good reason to transition the community to a one-post-per-reply forum style.

I already posted much of this feedback in the beta thread and would have said the rest had you ever sent out the feedback requests you said you were going to. I may edit this post later with more feedback.

Where is "linked quote"? I only see quote reply from highlighting text

OH that answered my own question xD

Quote button was far more convenient and now quote texting a big post adds that below the entire original post..? D: