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Aug 11, 1:59 AM
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Houjou, Tokiyuki is meant to be 8 but he looks atleast 12 to me, and none of the other characters look the age they are meant to be, anyone else get annoyed by this
Aug 11, 2:39 AM
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No reason to be annoyed the looks of a human with respect to age varies with respect to various parameters and there is no consistency even in real world at present or even historically as well, so I am totally cool with that, there is not even a single bit of annoyance for me.
Aug 11, 3:05 AM
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So?

Where is the problem?
Aug 11, 3:13 AM
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Rukasumi said:
Houjou, Tokiyuki is meant to be 8 but he looks atleast 12 to me, and none of the other characters look the age they are meant to be, anyone else get annoyed by this

Just stop
the anime age debate is always stupid because the design isn't ment to be realistic
Aug 11, 3:17 AM
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Do you not know that humans come in all shapes and sizes?
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Aug 11, 3:21 AM
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Rukasumi said:
Houjou, Tokiyuki is meant to be 8 but he looks atleast 12 to me, and none of the other characters look the age they are meant to be, anyone else get annoyed by this

Just stop
the anime age debate is always stupid because the design isn't ment to be realistic
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age
Aug 11, 3:21 AM
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Do you not know that humans come in all shapes and sizes?
@ejleon no 8 year old looks remotely like that lol
Aug 11, 3:35 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age

irrelevant
peter griffin acts like a torddler most of the times even tho hes a grown ass adult
what do you want tokiyuki to shout gen Z crap and watch skibidi toilet all Day?
Aug 11, 3:54 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age

Then it's realistic. At the time people were considered adults around the age of 12. So the age of 8 at that time is the same as the age of 12 at our time when adulthood is the age of 18.
Aug 11, 4:00 AM

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@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age
@Rukasumi I mean. Our world is free and unbound, hence the way a human behaves irrespective of their age is basically fluid.

For example, when I was in my teenage I was totally childish in nature, but right now when I see certain teenagers in around I see a spectrum of behavioral style ranging from outright childish to outright mature. Hence, I feel it will be our mistake to judge a person's age based on their looks, physical build or even their behavior or vice versa.
Aug 11, 4:03 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age

Then it's realistic. At the time people were considered adults around the age of 12. So the age of 8 at that time is the same as the age of 12 at our time when adulthood is the age of 18.
@ktg well they wernt, kids in the middle ages still were kids, yes teens were more adult but an 8 year old in the middle ages didnt act 18 or anything, that is a well known fallacy, also it depended on how poor they were so a well sheltered royalty kid would be very childish since they didnt have to worry about anything
Aug 11, 4:04 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age

irrelevant
peter griffin acts like a torddler most of the times even tho hes a grown ass adult
what do you want tokiyuki to shout gen Z crap and watch skibidi toilet all Day?
@Mr_Sai yes that would be funny
Aug 11, 4:07 AM
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Rukasumi said:
Houjou, Tokiyuki is meant to be 8 but he looks atleast 12 to me, and none of the other characters look the age they are meant to be, anyone else get annoyed by this

So... Why is that important in any way?
Aug 11, 4:35 AM

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@ejleon no 8 year old looks remotely like that lol
@Rukasumi so you lack any experience with different sized kids, just say that
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Aug 11, 4:54 AM
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Some documents from the time describe tokiyuki's age as 4 years old.
His age varies from document to document.
Aug 11, 5:37 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@ktg well they wernt, kids in the middle ages still were kids, yes teens were more adult but an 8 year old in the middle ages didnt act 18 or anything, that is a well known fallacy, also it depended on how poor they were so a well sheltered royalty kid would be very childish since they didnt have to worry about anything

That's not what fallacy is. Fallacy is a logical error in an argument. So no, this is, in fact, not a fallacy. And actually this is true.
Secondly, kids act as kids today because they don't have responsibilities. At that time an 8 year old, like you've seen in EP1, was trained to be a soldier, because at the age of 12 they could go to war.
Thirdly, the fallacy is when you talk about acting as 18. No one talked about being 18. You shifted the goalpost, because otherwise you couldn't refute me. You said that he acts as 12 in your eyes. Yes, in today's standards that would be 12, when the adulthood starts as 18 ( 12 is 2/3 of 18), but at that time adulthood started as age of 12, that's why kids had to "mature" faster, and that's why he acts as an 8 year old.
Lastly, he is still pretty childish. He doesn't really understand that he could die. The battlefield is just a playground for him and that's why he thinks of it as a game which was also highlighted in the show several times.
Aug 11, 6:07 AM
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@Rukasumi so you lack any experience with different sized kids, just say that
@ejleon you lack experience in the real world
Aug 11, 6:08 AM
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Some documents from the time describe tokiyuki's age as 4 years old.
His age varies from document to document.
@eikan0728 irl he was like 30 when this all hapened
Aug 11, 6:10 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@ktg well they wernt, kids in the middle ages still were kids, yes teens were more adult but an 8 year old in the middle ages didnt act 18 or anything, that is a well known fallacy, also it depended on how poor they were so a well sheltered royalty kid would be very childish since they didnt have to worry about anything

That's not what fallacy is. Fallacy is a logical error in an argument. So no, this is, in fact, not a fallacy. And actually this is true.
Secondly, kids act as kids today because they don't have responsibilities. At that time an 8 year old, like you've seen in EP1, was trained to be a soldier, because at the age of 12 they could go to war.
Thirdly, the fallacy is when you talk about acting as 18. No one talked about being 18. You shifted the goalpost, because otherwise you couldn't refute me. You said that he acts as 12 in your eyes. Yes, in today's standards that would be 12, when the adulthood starts as 18 ( 12 is 2/3 of 18), but at that time adulthood started as age of 12, that's why kids had to "mature" faster, and that's why he acts as an 8 year old.
Lastly, he is still pretty childish. He doesn't really understand that he could die. The battlefield is just a playground for him and that's why he thinks of it as a game which was also highlighted in the show several times.
@ktg stop it, the first episode shows how easy his life is and how he barely does any real training to begin with, even with training that dosent make you mature or more adult, it just means you know basic stuff about how to use a weapon, real maturity is looking after your family something royalty never has to think about doing, this show is blatantly having him be mature without him having any kind of training or reason for it, its just 1 big plot hole
Aug 11, 6:11 AM

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Rukasumi said:
@ejleon you lack experience in the real world

You know lame it is to repeat back to me what I said to you 😅🤦🏻‍♂️
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Aug 11, 7:19 AM

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lol, what is happening lmao.


Aug 11, 7:52 AM
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what do you mean by this???
Aug 11, 8:09 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@ktg stop it, the first episode shows how easy his life is and how he barely does any real training to begin with, even with training that dosent make you mature or more adult, it just means you know basic stuff about how to use a weapon, real maturity is looking after your family something royalty never has to think about doing, this show is blatantly having him be mature without him having any kind of training or reason for it, its just 1 big plot hole

You literally didn't say anything that is remotely a plot hole or/and refute any of my statements.
GJ

Re-read my comment and try again.
Aug 11, 9:28 AM
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Rukasumi said:
@ktg stop it, the first episode shows how easy his life is and how he barely does any real training to begin with, even with training that dosent make you mature or more adult, it just means you know basic stuff about how to use a weapon, real maturity is looking after your family something royalty never has to think about doing, this show is blatantly having him be mature without him having any kind of training or reason for it, its just 1 big plot hole

You literally didn't say anything that is remotely a plot hole or/and refute any of my statements.
GJ

Re-read my comment and try again.
@ktg yeah you are right having him magically be really good at fighting without showing him having any training is totally not a plothole
Aug 11, 2:32 PM
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Rukasumi said:
@ktg yeah you are right having him magically be really good at fighting without showing him having any training is totally not a plothole

but the show literally says that he isn’t good at fighting? it says he’s decent at archery for a reason and that he can evade since he’s been doing it since he was a child. The show never said that he could fight good so no - that isn’t a plot hole.
Aug 11, 3:10 PM

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Rukasumi said:
@ktg yeah you are right having him magically be really good at fighting without showing him having any training is totally not a plothole

Do you watch stuff turned away from the screen with the volume muted or something? That’s a bold method for entertainment consumption.

By episode 2 everyone should know that the “elusive samurai” is really good at elusion but only an amateur at swordsmanship. “Amateur” meaning having received at least some formal training. Tokiyuki can’t dislike sword training if he’s never done it. We don’t see any training because it’s superfluous to the presentation of the plot, not because it’s never happened.
Aug 11, 3:29 PM
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Rukasumi said:
@Mr_Sai its not just about looks, the way they act is way older too, i have no problem with lucky star because atleast they kinda act their age

That's the point, Tokiyuki is forced to be mature and grow up due to the world he lives in. His childhood is over.
Aug 11, 5:09 PM

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I cannot for the life of me fathom anybody over the age of 15 seriously caring about the difference between an 8yo and a 12yo. A kid is a kid is a kid. I can barely tell the difference irl much less in anime, appearance and behaviour wise.
Like, unless you're a kid yourself or a parent/teacher of kids in that age group suffering from a terminal case of deformation professionnelle, I really can't see why this is something you'd get hung up on when the story would change in no meaningful way if they looked younger or were actually 14yo.
Aug 12, 1:02 AM
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I cannot for the life of me fathom anybody over the age of 15 seriously caring about the difference between an 8yo and a 12yo. A kid is a kid is a kid. I can barely tell the difference irl much less in anime, appearance and behaviour wise.
Like, unless you're a kid yourself or a parent/teacher of kids in that age group suffering from a terminal case of deformation professionnelle, I really can't see why this is something you'd get hung up on when the story would change in no meaningful way if they looked younger or were actually 14yo.
@elany wtf does my age have anything to do with it, what a stupid comment to make, if anything this shows how immature you are not me
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I love people are just fighting with each other instead of having a discussion. Age is just meh in Anime in general. Lol
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You realize humans aren’t just one size, right?
If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece
Aug 12, 4:49 PM
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lol, what is happening lmao.
@nirererin some mofo with woke-issues made a thread. Pay no heed, sir
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irs anime bro...they aren't real people. and anyway, I in real life, sometimes people dont look their age. I don't see what would get you so annoyed..
do u get annoyed when you watch Hollywood teen dramas where the teens are played by 30 year Olds??
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irs anime bro...they aren't real people. and anyway, I in real life, sometimes people dont look their age. I don't see what would get you so annoyed..
do u get annoyed when you watch Hollywood teen dramas where the teens are played by 30 year Olds??
@AakBan_Pochi29 yes but atleast then they are at the age where you cant really tell a difference with the acting
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Damn this is no discussion this a whole ass fight. I dont agree with the take that 8 and 12 is almost the same, cus it for sure is not. Other than that the mc looks and acts more like a 15yo than an 8yo, but as someone said before that's just how age works in anime

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