| It's so cryptic that I'm not even sure what I should be writing down, honestly. I don't think it's that hard to get a rough idea of Belle's motivations, what happened, and how the world works. But it's what the characters say that's the biggest problem for me. Everything the two-headed king tells Belle and the masked figure in Episode 3, for example. Also the lyrics to the song in the tavern. They're really vague and aren't particularly memorable or interesting, despite sounding faintly important and emotional. Maybe they'll come back to those lines and they'll all make sense in the end, but it's just a shame that they're so difficult to latch on to right now. Or maybe they won't ever explain them. |
Reply to cdragon_88
@TGAvi LOL. Pretentious. Perhaps we should listen to the director's commentary to understand the any movie. My man is right the first time, any anime, movie, book, or otherwise that needs something else to explain and understand it is doing something wrong---in this case, it's just piss poor writing. But if i makes you feel better about yourself thinking the rest of us is "just stupid people," I've no issues with it. Doesn't change the fact that this anime's writing is piss poor and just glosses over everything.
| @cdragon_88 There's value in not being handed everything on a plate. If you gotta sweat for your meal, it'll taste that sweeter. But that has to be added value, not the whole thing. If you can't grasp shit about the setting, characters, plot from start to finish, yeah you probably just crossed the piss poor writing frontier. Guess we'll need a few more episodes to settle on which of the two this is. |
Reply to ZGUEGCHOV
@cdragon_88 There's value in not being handed everything on a plate. If you gotta sweat for your meal, it'll taste that sweeter. But that has to be added value, not the whole thing. If you can't grasp shit about the setting, characters, plot from start to finish, yeah you probably just crossed the piss poor writing frontier. Guess we'll need a few more episodes to settle on which of the two this is.
| @ZGUEGCHOV What with how people praise Lain for the exact same stuff Bye Bye Earth has, alongside it's lack of spoon feeding, I think this really might be a show people should binge rather than wait for every week. I do think I'm actually understanding a fair bit for Bye Bye Earth? Though I think it might be the ADHD kicking in lmao It's an esoteric premise for sure, and whilst there's a lot of talk on 'is this purposeful' or 'is it laziness / cut content'. I do think what with the nature of the direction, this is all purposeful. A lazy adaption would've made a half-assed attempt to explain world mechanics, but this anime doesn't and forgoes that. Going for the 'how to organically obtain information' route, with minimal narration. 90% of dialogue in media is explaining stuff, but without taking the actual personality and characters explaining stuff, into account. So for a show like this to take this direction is actually kinda neat. Conversations happen more naturally about things that happen rather than assume the MC has to be coddled like a baby. Also something else I thought of: Why would the narration open up and explain the premise like you're at the beginning of the story, when the whole theme of this city is revolving around a forever-play that you're caught in the middle of? It strangely makes sense there's no real 'introduction' or narration in that aspect. It's thematically metaphorical. Definitely needs more eps to see how things go. And even if it's not the best, it's definitely *interesting*. |
Reply to VoidDaddy
@ZGUEGCHOV
What with how people praise Lain for the exact same stuff Bye Bye Earth has, alongside it's lack of spoon feeding, I think this really might be a show people should binge rather than wait for every week. I do think I'm actually understanding a fair bit for Bye Bye Earth? Though I think it might be the ADHD kicking in lmao
It's an esoteric premise for sure, and whilst there's a lot of talk on 'is this purposeful' or 'is it laziness / cut content'. I do think what with the nature of the direction, this is all purposeful. A lazy adaption would've made a half-assed attempt to explain world mechanics, but this anime doesn't and forgoes that. Going for the 'how to organically obtain information' route, with minimal narration.
90% of dialogue in media is explaining stuff, but without taking the actual personality and characters explaining stuff, into account. So for a show like this to take this direction is actually kinda neat. Conversations happen more naturally about things that happen rather than assume the MC has to be coddled like a baby.
Also something else I thought of: Why would the narration open up and explain the premise like you're at the beginning of the story, when the whole theme of this city is revolving around a forever-play that you're caught in the middle of? It strangely makes sense there's no real 'introduction' or narration in that aspect. It's thematically metaphorical.
Definitely needs more eps to see how things go. And even if it's not the best, it's definitely *interesting*.
What with how people praise Lain for the exact same stuff Bye Bye Earth has, alongside it's lack of spoon feeding, I think this really might be a show people should binge rather than wait for every week. I do think I'm actually understanding a fair bit for Bye Bye Earth? Though I think it might be the ADHD kicking in lmao
It's an esoteric premise for sure, and whilst there's a lot of talk on 'is this purposeful' or 'is it laziness / cut content'. I do think what with the nature of the direction, this is all purposeful. A lazy adaption would've made a half-assed attempt to explain world mechanics, but this anime doesn't and forgoes that. Going for the 'how to organically obtain information' route, with minimal narration.
90% of dialogue in media is explaining stuff, but without taking the actual personality and characters explaining stuff, into account. So for a show like this to take this direction is actually kinda neat. Conversations happen more naturally about things that happen rather than assume the MC has to be coddled like a baby.
Also something else I thought of: Why would the narration open up and explain the premise like you're at the beginning of the story, when the whole theme of this city is revolving around a forever-play that you're caught in the middle of? It strangely makes sense there's no real 'introduction' or narration in that aspect. It's thematically metaphorical.
Definitely needs more eps to see how things go. And even if it's not the best, it's definitely *interesting*.
VoidDaddy said: I do think I'm actually understanding a fair bit for Bye Bye Earth? The very PROBLEM is that you only THINK you understand it. Also this is something that Japan culture loves to gobble up, these kind of pretentious "cool sounding but deep" shit. All of the sentences in this show are like that. How many Japanese games for example start with vague and bullshit sentences that are suppose to be some kind of foreshadowing or introduction to "set the mood", or some Latin or philosophical nonsense because it sounds cool and deep or ominous. This is a clear mark of incompetent writer. Compare this to something from Naoki Urasawa, who uses some of these things but in a more meaningful and logical way. You don't really understand much in the beginning and for every answer you get at least two more questions, but he competently uses show don't tell and isn't too exposition heavy. He also uses metaphors, but instead of just throwing a random bullshit sentence that you are suppose to have mind reading abilities to know what the author actually meant to say, he either shows it or have it linger in the scene and be connected to what is actually happening giving it context instead of just skipping it over and going on the next scene leaving you confused what that actually meant because the writer isn't competent enough to present it to you in a meaningful way. And this show is full of this, we don't know anything about the world or characters and we have these arbitrary rules that are just pooping up in every episode instead of at least trying to establish some kind of logic behind them. |
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