| I second this. For a platform full of English speakers and for English speakers primarily, I don’t see the reason why we must change it into Japanese titles (ostensibly for culturally appropriate matter, which is, odd and dumb). I particularly hate the Ghost in The Shell title, not because it’s Japanese but because it’s uncalled-for and out of place. |
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| These are the main features of Kitsu and AniList. Which are MAL's competitors. MAL has made it very clear they are not budging on this now or ever. The only reason I'm still here instead of there is that both their user interfaces are just too radically different and flashy. I feel like most the discussion for this feature died when these other anime list tracking sites popped up. For some people it really is a deal breaker not having this. |
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Quiaon said: Glad I could help. But I still think it's a 50/50 shot of you coming back since the facebook like layout of those sites are painful imo. Well that pretty much killed this thread. Sorry MAL, sorry Xinil.Yup said: Really? Didn't know there were sites like that. Time to move out.These are the main features of Kitsu and AniList. Which are MAL's competitors. MAL has made it very clear they are not budging on this now or ever. The only reason I'm still here instead of there is that both their user interfaces are just too radically different and flashy. I feel like most the discussion for this feature died when these other anime list tracking sites popped up. For some people it really is a deal breaker not having this. |
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| It'd be a nice addition but not that necessary imo. Original Japanese title is still preferred. |
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GIGAkun said: I'm new to the forums but I'm getting the impression MAL doesn't care too much for feature requests but it's worth a bump... +1 this feature They don't care at all. MAL is a dinosaur. |
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| I would also like to bump this thread. I have been learning Japanese for years, but these titles still trip me up when I’m looking for something. There should at least be a happy medium here and they should give users the option to toggle between the English and Japanese names. |
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Mr_Chr15topher said: I would also like to bump this thread. I have been learning Japanese for years, but these titles still trip me up when I’m looking for something. There should at least be a happy medium here and they should give users the option to toggle between the English and Japanese names. If you talk about your list , it's a feature that have been added since then : https://myanimelist.net/editprofile.php?go=listpreferences (Anime Titles/Manga Titles) Aside from that , the search bar also works with English inputs. |
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| YES PLEASE This is the feature I struggle with on this site unlike others. Writing Japanese words in English letters isn't truth anyway; if you want it in Japanese it should literally be written in kanji. And that would be awesome IF the Japanese script was written BELOW the English title and not the other way around. This is an English language site in the English-speaking west; the title links PLEASE show in English! Or at least as a compromise- use the title most widely recognized for the series. |
SuperAdventure said: Writing Japanese words in English letters isn't truth anyway It's simply romanization , and MAL have rules for it : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=128975 SuperAdventure said: This is an English language site in the English-speaking west The site is owned by Japanese companies tho. SuperAdventure said: Or at least as a compromise- use the title most widely recognized for the series. It was the case before (That's why you can see things like "Fullmetal Alchemist") , but inconsistency is the worst thing for a database , which is why MAL is slowly translating everything into Japanese. |
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| It's simply romanization , and MAL have rules for it : https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=128975 I know what it is, but it's not the way Japanese is written and only approximates how it is spoken. It isn't true to the Japanese, so it's not more 'authentic' to hav the titles written in a way that the vast majority of fans do not use. NOBODY has ever referred to Attack on Titan as "Shingeki no Kyojin" in any of the forum posts I have ever seen, I have never once encountered anyone calling it that online or in RL. Not once. It's called Attack on Titan or AOT by literally everyone. I wouldn't be surprised if half of Japanese people said it this way. So insisting on romanized Japanese isn't helping Japanese speakers or English speakers at all, it miscommunicates. The site is owned by Japanese companies tho. This is irrelevant. It was the case before (That's why you can see things like "Fullmetal Alchemist") , but inconsistency is the worst thing for a database , which is why MAL is slowly translating everything into Japanese. It isn't inconsistent to utilize the name that all of society calls something on both sides of the Pacific. The inconsistencies that mess up data have more to do with capitalization or punctuation, or abbreviations i.e putting values like "Attack on Titan" or "Attack On Titan." or "Attack on Titan" |
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Yes, the easiest solution would be to have the English name after the Japanese name, everywhere.
Ideally users could choose to switch between Japanese and English as the primary title.
Not having this creates a bad user experience. E.g. When trying to add a recommendation, I have to look through a list of Japanese titles that have no meaning to me (I only know a few by their Japanese name), so I then have to do a separate search for the Japanese name.
In general, the whole platform could use a user experience improvement pass.
Ideally users could choose to switch between Japanese and English as the primary title.
Not having this creates a bad user experience. E.g. When trying to add a recommendation, I have to look through a list of Japanese titles that have no meaning to me (I only know a few by their Japanese name), so I then have to do a separate search for the Japanese name.
In general, the whole platform could use a user experience improvement pass.
| @Something_More it’s been a year since the last reply so I don’t know if things have changed, but you can type the English title into the search bar and it will give you what you’re looking for. I assume the first result should be correct in most cases, at least if there is an actual English title in use. |
and i guess that i just don't know |
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@CrimsonMidnight "Preferred" ? By who? How tf are we supposed to know what the show is about if the title is ching chong
| @SD_Sweden_W racist mf go away. |
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| Using romanized Japanese titles is the best IMO. It's what they call it, and they made it so that is good enough for me. It's not hard to find titles; worst comes to worst, if the MAL DB doesn't understand some English name you're giving it just try AniDB. I've never had that site fail to figure it out. What really annoys me is when the English title isn't even in parity with the Japanese title. Usually the English version is a translation of the Japanese one, but sometimes they decide to change it to something totally different which is irritating. SuperAdventure said: NOBODY has ever referred to Attack on Titan as "Shingeki no Kyojin" in any of the forum posts I have ever seen, I have never once encountered anyone calling it that online or in RL. Not once. It's called Attack on Titan or AOT by literally everyone. This is an old ass comment, but I feel obligated to point out you are making grandiose claims based on the super expansive dataset of ONE person's experiences :) I can guarantee you, it is not called that by "literally" everyone. <boomer>God I hate how people misuse the word literally.</boomer> You can go to Google and do like site:animesuki.com "shingeki no kyojin" and once you get past all the results keying in on the forum title, you'll find many instances of people referring to it in that manner. When I'm chatting with someone, I switch based on that person's cues. If they are the type to use English names, I'll talk about how, for example, I liked Ascendance of a Bookworm rather than Honzuki no Gekokujou which is how I think of it. SuperAdventure said: It isn't inconsistent to utilize the name that all of society calls something on both sides of the Pacific. The inconsistencies that mess up data have more to do with capitalization or punctuation, or abbreviations i.e putting values like "Attack on Titan" or "Attack On Titan." or "Attack on Titan" The issues you pointed out are not issues at all for a database search engine. Wholly irrelevant to it. |
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Using romanized Japanese titles is the best IMO. It's what they call it, and they made it so that is good enough for me. It's not hard to find titles; worst comes to worst, if the MAL DB doesn't understand some English name you're giving it just try AniDB. I've never had that site fail to figure it out. What really annoys me is when the English title isn't even in parity with the Japanese title. Usually the English version is a translation of the Japanese one, but sometimes they decide to change it to something totally different which is irritating.
This is an old ass comment, but I feel obligated to point out you are making grandiose claims based on the super expansive dataset of ONE person's experiences :) I can guarantee you, it is not called that by "literally" everyone. <boomer>God I hate how people misuse the word literally.</boomer> You can go to Google and do like site:animesuki.com "shingeki no kyojin" and once you get past all the results keying in on the forum title, you'll find many instances of people referring to it in that manner.
When I'm chatting with someone, I switch based on that person's cues. If they are the type to use English names, I'll talk about how, for example, I liked Ascendance of a Bookworm rather than Honzuki no Gekokujou which is how I think of it.
The issues you pointed out are not issues at all for a database search engine. Wholly irrelevant to it.
SuperAdventure said:
NOBODY has ever referred to Attack on Titan as "Shingeki no Kyojin" in any of the forum posts I have ever seen, I have never once encountered anyone calling it that online or in RL. Not once. It's called Attack on Titan or AOT by literally everyone.
NOBODY has ever referred to Attack on Titan as "Shingeki no Kyojin" in any of the forum posts I have ever seen, I have never once encountered anyone calling it that online or in RL. Not once. It's called Attack on Titan or AOT by literally everyone.
This is an old ass comment, but I feel obligated to point out you are making grandiose claims based on the super expansive dataset of ONE person's experiences :) I can guarantee you, it is not called that by "literally" everyone. <boomer>God I hate how people misuse the word literally.</boomer> You can go to Google and do like site:animesuki.com "shingeki no kyojin" and once you get past all the results keying in on the forum title, you'll find many instances of people referring to it in that manner.
When I'm chatting with someone, I switch based on that person's cues. If they are the type to use English names, I'll talk about how, for example, I liked Ascendance of a Bookworm rather than Honzuki no Gekokujou which is how I think of it.
SuperAdventure said:
It isn't inconsistent to utilize the name that all of society calls something on both sides of the Pacific. The inconsistencies that mess up data have more to do with capitalization or punctuation, or abbreviations i.e putting values like "Attack on Titan" or "Attack On Titan." or "Attack on Titan"
It isn't inconsistent to utilize the name that all of society calls something on both sides of the Pacific. The inconsistencies that mess up data have more to do with capitalization or punctuation, or abbreviations i.e putting values like "Attack on Titan" or "Attack On Titan." or "Attack on Titan"
The issues you pointed out are not issues at all for a database search engine. Wholly irrelevant to it.
| @Strahan You waited 3 months to tell me that because you don't like my opinion it's wrong. mmmk |
| I almost always use localized titles or occasionally the original Japanese spelling when referencing or researching anime. With the history of fan-subs I kind of get where the obsession with romaji comes from, but I wish people from other backgrounds had more tools on MAL to keep using the titles they're already familiar with. Especially if MAL has the goal to be a global website for all anime fans I don't get why everyone should have to get used to these romaji fan titles. English titles are better anyway. Titles have a function. They should be memorable and are supposed to give an impression about the content so that people know what to expect and can decide if they want to check it out. The problem I have with romaji for a non-Japanese audience is that people don't understand what it means and that the titles are more difficult to remember because of it. What do you gain from knowing how to pronounce the original title if you don't follow media and discussions in raw Japanese? |
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| Exactly what @Vaturna said, especially the second paragraph, I sign it 100%. Referring to the AOT-title subthread of the discussion, and how "literally everyone" or not uses it, that fact can't quite be pinned down for certain worldwide; but what do we know for sure instead? Is Japanese (or romanji) known by everyone? NO, it's a national language, like Italian. Is English (referring to proper titles, not romanized Japanese words) known by the majority of people? YES, it is taught in schools all over the globe, including Japan; therefore it is the most inclusive language that can be used. So I agree that... Mr_Chr15topher said: ... there should at least be a happy medium here and they should give users the option to toggle between the English and Japanese names. Something_More said: Another great example of this "2 steps" nuisance - even though I have the English title list setting turned ON - is when comparing user profiles for affinity/scores (shared.php page): the titles are almost all in Japanese and, being not used to dozens of them, I'm forced to do a back-and-forth to decipher each individual record of the entire shared list.Ideally users could choose to switch between Japanese and English as the primary title. Not having this creates a bad user experience. E.g. when trying to add a recommendation |
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| MAL offers the original, English, German, Spanish, and French titles for anime so they have no excuse to not allow users to set those as being the default titles they'll see when using the site, provided a title is available in that language. Obviously I'm against forcing English titles as the default, most people don't speak English as their first language and might not be aware of what the English title for something is, and a lot of license titles aren't used much, but having the option available makes sense and it probably wouldn't even take long to code. Also, just focusing on English would be silly considering the effort they've gone through to add titles for other languages. It would be a useful accessibility feature. |
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